UPDATE at bottom:
Professor Bruce Charlton is a deeply intelligent, observant, and devout convert to traditional Orthodox Christianity. I read every post he publishes and enjoy most of them.
But he had some kind of beef with those of us who hope for a better society with a rational government less addicted to leftist ideology, but who aren’t convinced that such a government or society need be founded on Christian principles. He says we’re just leftists of a different stripe. Maybe it’s a problem of definitions.
That doesn’t make sense to me, even after reading his post, so I’m asking for some clarification from anyone who can provide it. To me, it’s like someone called me a Hindu of a different stripe. I’ve never thought of myself that way, it seems absurd, but maybe I’m missing the essential ingredient of Hinduism to which my prosecutor refers and thinks I express.
On the other hand, I like to think I understand the Left enough to know I’m not a part of it. Leftists wouldn’t think I’m a part of it either. They certainly don’t invite me to their econo-geek book discussion parties in the district. Their loss!
Now, I think Foseti and Moldbug would make stronger claims than I would (they have made such Historical claims, some decently founded in my judgment) about the connection between Christianity and Progressivism. That’s not what I’m saying here. Those posts always stir up a lot of emotion, and that’s not my intent. Samson, I know, is just about done with us. But I’ll try. A gentleman acts with grace and respect towards all of his friends and affords their sensitivities an appropriate weight.
I’m just making a much weaker claim. That a society can be rationally governed in a non-leftist manner without needing to be based in Christianity. I’m not against Christian societies or their reestablishment. I don’t dislike Christianity or Christians. Most of my best friends, neighbors, and relatives have been very pleasant and friendly Christians whose Christianity obviously gave them a lot of satisfaction and comfort and helped them live righteous lives, and I have benefited from their Christianity-motivated actions on my behalf. But I have just as much positive experience with non-Christians.
So, I’m genuinely interested in having the civil conversation to see if we can clear some of this up. Is Handle a leftist? Foseti and Moldbug too? Under what definition or conception of leftism can this charge be made sensible?
Ok. Open Haus. Have at it.