FaceGov Open Thread

Worth bringing to your attention, and in the Bay Area no less.  URban-planning and policy consulting from Moldbug is only 25 miles North.

You may ask, “But how will they govern?”  My guess – basically like a college campus, and bearing some resemblance to military bases with quarters:

  1. Mostly, with their selectionist membership, and a fence and a guard, they won’t have to govern much.  Facebook employees living in a community will tend to spontaneous order and harmony compatible with neighbor-neutral liberty.
  2. There will be some homeowners / community-association like mechanism for deciding on fees and amenities.  They may have some conflict resolution / moderation ‘court’.  There will be some rules about bringing in guests from ‘the outside’ and about parties and common spaces.
  3. On the off chance that actual classic criminal activity occurs – violence, theft, rape, stalking and whatnot – then they’ll outsource to the actual police.  But this will be rare.  The fence will help a lot.
  4. Otherwise there will be a lot of PC rules about equal opportunity inclusiveness for organizations, maintaining a welcoming environment, a safe space full of sensitivity and non-offensiveness, etc.  But remember, this is inclusion and sensitivity to other Facebook colleagues who are also your neighbors, not anyone outside the gates.   Insisting upon the essentials of group cohesion and camaraderie in such a closed social environment is fairly reasonable.

Neocameralism is Progressive Paradise.

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7 Responses to FaceGov Open Thread

  1. Dan says:

    At a cost of only around $300K per unit, I believe this is a steal for that area. Assuming it is offered at or near or cost to employees, this would be a huge return to affordable housing and a boon to family formation.

    It also goes to show just how much of real estate costs involve paying an ‘exclusivity fee’ to get in a neighborhood you would want to live in. Apparently that is most of the cost in such an area.

    • Handle says:

      You can separate real-estate costs into land and improvements assessments.
      You can furthermore break up the demand for land into consumption and investment components.
      The question is, what are the typical determinants of consumption demand for the land component.
      It’s different for everyone, some people like the wide-open country, people like stay close to friends, etc.
      But in general, what makes things expensive are:
      1. Proximity to one’s employment location and urban amenities.
      2. Geographic and Climatological Factors (Beach, Weather, etc.)
      3. Neighborhood Quality.

      If you hold 1 and 2 constant, you still see huge variation in price due to 3. In most urban areas, you can move half a mile and the same structure will sell for an order of magnitude more.

      What determines neighborhood quality? Mostly, it’s one’s neighbors. If you want safety and security, law and order, ‘good schools’ and voluntary contribution in community endeavors, you need good neighbors.

      People are willing to make significant sacrifices, including paying a fortune and spending an extra hour a day commuting, to live in such a place. It’s a stretch, but peace of mind is worth every penny.

      People use to get these things for free. Quantifying just how much more they have to pay for it these days is a long-term project of mine.

      And claiming that you can make it cheap again, if you are believed, is an awfully attractive offer.

  2. Is it just me, or is Silicon Valley beginning to smell of Bubble?

  3. It is possible that, at some point, virtually every American with any kind of serious marketable skill will live in such a place. See the ‘Burbclaves’ in Stephenson’s “Snow Crash,” the “Compounds” in Atwood’s “Oryx and Crake,” and countless other SF examples.

    For a somewhat crackpot ‘red’ version of this concept, see “Rightful Liberty Project” and their “Citadel.” Which, on close reading, smells a little too strongly of a honeypot.

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